the word humorous i had never heard it before. i have so much to learn. >> yes, do. >> with that, if it's way too early it's "morning joe "but now stick around for chuck todd. he's straight ahead. thank you, sir. full-court press. we won't know how the justices will rule on the health care law but we do know it will be an all or nothing. dog bites man. marco rub ohio decides it's time to sign on with romney. figuring out how to do it in a way that enhances their own case. and stand your ground. we've heard a lot of the trayvon martin case. dozens of other states now have

it, too. where did it come from? how did it spread so fast? and what was it responding to? our deep dive into politics ahead. good morning from washington. this is the daily rundown. i'm chuck todd. we're a long way from knowing whether the supreme court will throw out the health insurance mandate. court won't rule until june. they take a secret vote this week to see where they are. but as if the stakes weren't high enough already, the justices seem to agree that if it does, most of the law, if it strikes down the mandate, most of the law should go to the mandate. >> once you cut the guts out of it, who knows, who knows which were really desired by congress on their own and which ones weren't? >> my approach would say, if you take the heart of the out statute, the statute's gone. >> it seemed unanimous, two more

popular revisions would have to go, too. refusing to cover people with pre-existing conditions and limiting companies from hiking up their rates. the more liberal justices said it should be up to congress, not the court to decide what else to keep. >> what's wrong with leaving it to in the hands of the people who should be fixing this, not us? >> why shouldn't we say it's a choice between a wrecking operation which is what you are requesting, or a salvage job and the more conservative would be salvage rather than throwing out everything. >> the decorum in the court is the rule rather than the exception. justice scalia's tone at time was downright snarky. cruel and unusual punishment. >> what happened to the eighth

amendment? you really want us to go through these 2,700 pages? and do you really expect the court to do that? or do you expect us to give this function to our law clerks? >> he also had a little line in there about the corn husker kickbacks. >> the administration thinks that it's clear that the majority of justices are against severability. and could help them win over the reluctant justice kennedy and they still believe chief roberts is still in play and might want to write a very narrow opinion that would up dlrz hold the law if the court is going in that direction. third, the white house also feels even if the mandate is struck down, this is politically

survivorable. why? they are guaranteed four votes. they could fall back on a political argument. yesterday the white house said there was no contingency plan and they introduced this new language, by the way to, describe the mandate. >> the individual provision and individual responsibility provision that you sight was originally a republican idea. it was something that was conceived by the heritage foundation. >> guys, now you're going to change the language in the mandate? okay. one more bright spot for the white house, they believe even if they are dealt a blow on health care, they are helped by the fact that mitt romney is in a unique position being unable to capitalize on it. now, nearly two months after the florida primary, senator marco

rub ohio dwsh. >> that's not what i intend to be, not what i want to be, and that's not what is going to happen. >> rubio is not exactly out in front. he's the 92nd member of congress and 18th senator back romney. senator rubio's endorsement is a major milestone in my effort to make barack obama is one-term president. he has not gotten a single meaningful endorsement in perhaps the last six weeks. yesterday santorum tried again to soften his image with yet another bowling stop. apparently he thinks only bowling -- >> i think we should get him in a match.

what do you think? >> we've done well. i think we'll do well here. the question is how well? >> romney will get his fourth endorsement of sorts from president george h.w. bush today. romney appeared in this photo. perhaps only the dogs were endorsing romney at the time. he said romney was the best choice and planned to tape him. today kind of makes number four for mr. and mr. bush. i guess now it's official. final note, sheldon adelson said newt is at the end of his line, something he's already signaled with his checkbook. but this was more interesting from the normally reclusive adelson. >> he's got the bold decision like newt gingrich. every time i talk to him he says, well, let me think about

it. everything i've said to mitt, let me look into it. so he's like obama. >> how about that? finally, so much for bowles-simpson popularity. it finally got a real vote in the house. the house dealt a crushing blow to this bipartisan funding. it failed 38-382. just 16 republicans and 22 democrats voting for -- we've controlled it on the screen if you want to pause and see every member. in november, more than 100 lawmakers in every parties endorsed the idea of going big and sponsored-ohio congressman told reporters he hoped to match that number. they gave an impassioned appeal on the floor. >> we must come together for the good of the country. we must put our nation first. we must set partisanship aside. >> throw the bums out.

throw them all out and replace them with new people. americans are screaming for us to take off our red jerseys on this side, take off the blue jerseys on that side. i've heard a lot of people say that this is hard work, not now. well, if not now, when? and if not this, what? ever? >> last night lawmakers went out of their way to praise twohe tw men and i have tremendous respect for bowles and simpson. i just don't like the substance of it. >> he's voted against bowles-simpsons twice. and steny hoyer said, we must build a broad consensus. okay then, whatever.

last night the house also defeated a political document that was based on the president's budget 0 to 4-14. the house voted on a summary of the numbers in an amendment offered by republican congressman nick mull vain knee. bottom line, it was a gimmick. luke, i just want to go back to bowles simpson. that was the height of -- >> huge underreported story. kudos to you. it's so underreported. we here on capitol hill -- >> it's the height of unbelievable grand standing. >> it is so hypocritical.

every day you walk through these halls and say, we need to tackle the skyrocketing dead both sides have to jump in together, it goes to the floor and gets 38 votes. if you want one number that's embl emblematic, it's 38. that's all you've got to say. 38. unbelievable. >> it's stunning. especially when you hear those speeches on the floor from people praising and then voting against. >> absolutely. >> but let's go to today's event. the voting on the paul ryan budget. it's my understanding it's barely going to get the 218. there are a lot of republicans that don't want to have to vote for this budget? >> that's correct, chuck.

first and foremost, it will likely pass today there are a lot of conservative republicans. the top number to $1.82 million, there's going to be a study committee and it's expected that a lot of guys after voting on their budget will come over and vote for the ryan budget. it won't have that resounding unanimous total where only four defected. political junkie alert, what will he do now? will he be a maverick once again? >> he voted against it the last time. good point on that one. luke russert, busy day for you.

>> thank you, sir. the arguments are over and now president obama's signature domestic achievement. the overall of health care, the ruling is expected in june. pete williams is at his home away from home this week. the supreme court, we don't have to rush you out of here. tell me what is going to happen. >> reporter: first of all, they initially vote and that's important because that makes the opinion of who is going to write the majority opinion and the concurrence. if they write the usual rule, and stay with me on this, they would have voted yesterday, wednesday on monday's case. monday was whether this is pre-empted by a 150-year-old federal law and then tomorrow on friday they will take their vote on the cases that were argued on tuesday and wednesday. that's the big one.

the individual mandate, what are we calling it now, the opportunity -- >> something about the personal responsibility act. >> right. they would vote on that and also on the other two questions, whether that part of the individual mandate can be taken out and the rest of the law survive and what became really the sleeper issue, whether the medicaid on the states is constitutional. so by friday they will have decided how they are going to decide this case, at least take a preliminary vote, and then the majority opinion will be assigned, whoever wants to write a dissent would then make start circulating their opinions and then whoever is on the majority side will try to get more votes to come around and really that's where things can change. you know, if the assumption right now has to be that possible swing vote here,

justice kennedy, is inclined to vote against this, to vote to find it unconstitutional. but he didn't give the impression that he felt really, really strongly about it. >> right. >> so if it start out that he's in the minority, if the liberals are in the minority, they will try to bring him to their side and things can change in the next several weeks. >> and there is still some chatter -- and certainly the word from the white house side of the argument that chief robert justice is in play. do you buy it? >> i would be very surprised in the initial vote but here's the calculus, the thinking on that side. if he thinks that justice kennedy is going to join the four liberals and find five votes to uphold this, then the question is whether justice roberts would jump in so that he can sign the opinion and make sure it's written very narrowly.

that's their best hope and i have no idea how that would play out but that's the most optimistic scenario for the obama administration. >> pete williams, it's not friday. it's still just thursday. >> i believe it. >> thank you, sir. up next, we're continuing our week-long series about hiring our heroes. it's an initiative to help give veterans a fighting chance when they come home. senator jack reid will discuss this with me. plus, george zimmerman supporters say he was bleeding from the nose and head when police arrived. new video, though, from just hours after trayvon martin's death, is raising some big questions about his self-defense claim. now a look ahead at the president's schedule. he's got a rose garden event. he will be talking about taxpayer loopholes, oil companies, we'll see if it has a shout in a second. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc.

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all week cnbc and msnbc are represent hiring our heroes. just getting a roof over some veterans' heads can be a struggle. focused on this particular issue i want to focus on it this morn, senator reed. thank you for coming on. >> thank you, chuck. i want to thank msnbc for helping these young men that

have observed the country. thank you. >> let's talk about -- it's the least, frankly, that we could do. let's talk about this issue of this homeless veteran and the growth of the homeless veteran population. right now this week the hud secretary said one out of every six men in our shelters wore a military uniform. >> i was talking to admiral mike mullen and he was meeting with young veterans in san diego. he was shocked because a significant number of them raised their hands and said, we don't have a place to stay. we're bulking on the couch of a buddy. we don't have homes. and these are 20, 30-year-olds. it's not just a phenomenon of those that have served decades ago.

a lot of these are iraqi and afghanistan veterans. >> veterans are 50% more likely to fall into homelessness than other americans. and i think you sort of touch on why. they were living at home and then can't live at home anymore after they come back from their tour. they don't necessarily have an easy way in on the educational system. what are the remedies that you think government can come up with? >> well, prewe've already propo several initiatives. it's been very aggressive to try to move these fords. the first thing we have to do is integrate our head of hud and veterans association. then what we have to do is

actually give rental assistance to these veterans so they can help them get into homes. so that will go a long way. our goal should be to end veterans' homelessness in the united states. it's shocking that these men and women that serve this country so well cannot find a place to say. >> as we try to figure out and bases have shut down, should formal military bases -- should they be given an opportunity of transitional living for a year, two years, after they are done with their service, to sort of live in military housing? >> well, i think there are several things we can look at but the most cost-effective and i think best for the veterans, really, is to give them the support that they need to find

rental housing. i think the real issue is getting people into adequate rental housing. one of the problems with living on a base is you've left the marine corps. >> what are the chances it gets past this year? >> i think there's a very good chance. we've increased the number of vouchers that the v.a. has to use together with resources. this is one of those issues where it does cost money and this is the trade off here but you can't do it on the backs of veterans, these young men and

women that have served. >> chuck reed, thank you for coming on the show. >> thank you. >> all right. we'll get a preview the day on wall street next in the market rundown and new evidence that this gender gap issue is more of just a problem for the presidential level. could it cost them a shot at control of the senate? first, today's trivia question. who was the most supreme court justice not born in the united states? tweet me the answer @chucktodd. that answer and more is coming up on "the daily rundown." we'll be right back. [ johan ] hello, piper. nice up-do. i see you're crunching numbers with a cup of joe... when you could be relaxing with a delicious gevalia. or as i like to say, a cup of johan. joe's a cubicle. johan is a corner office with a young, eager assistant...

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surprise because the joble claims were better than expected. we are still hovering around the historically low levels. the fourth quarter gtp is still 3%. people were thinking that we'd see 3.1 to 3.3%. also, we've got best buy numbers in. this is better than we expected. they told us about that already. the numbers came in at $2.47 a share of profit. that's better than the 2.$2.16 that the street expected. all in all, it's going to be pretty good. i want to thank you for that shout out to girl power. women rule. >> earlier you missed the shout out to maria bartiromo on

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until 2005 to expand the law and allow people to stand their place. in the florida state senate, the vote in the florida house was overwhelmingly bipartisan and although some tried to stop it, and how many of you would feel threatened if my nephew and his you were in the law that we were about to pass you would have the right to shoot any of them and done it in the name of the law. there's some question whether this law applies in this case of george zimmerman. the co-sponsor was dennis baxley and he says no. a person to pursue and confront other people, i think any individual is on very thin ice

when they get outside the realm of that protection. >> nevertheless, this case has brought new scrutiny to stand your ground law. general governor jeb bush signed it into law, she was right by his side. here's how the government defended the law at the time. >> when you're in a pog where you're being threatened and there's a life threatening position to have to retreat and put yourself in a very precarious position, you know, it defies commonsense. >> by the way, that bill signing came a month after inducting into the florida hall of fame and then approached the american legislative exchange council which writes legislation and the

alce adopted a model for what became a national campaign. mike rounds signed his own version of stand your ground and then things started to speed up. did the nra have a role in the nra contributed the maximum amount that they could at the time, $12,000 between 2004 and 2008, alabama and idaho were next. the bill was sponsored by a pair of democrats. a month letter the first democratic governor signed the stand your ground law, janet napolitano. a bill drafted at the request of the nra and passed with only nine no-votes in the house and nate combined. we had 14 states with signed versions of the doctrine stand

your ground law. as of today, some 32 state have a version of it. some are specific as to where you can use deadly force, there are new signs of opposition starting to pop up probably shouldn't be too surprising. minnesota's democratic governor just vetoed a version of it in minnesota. john lynch tried to do the same but the state legislature there overroad his veto. meanwhile, the controversy over the trayvon martin shooting isn't stopping the nra from expanding it even further into more states. alaska, where it's already in place, a bill is being looked at. an e-mail was sent out to help supporters push it through. all of this raises the question, what is the purpose of this raw? what is it reacting to? what is the crisis? do we have a crisis on this?

or is this about legislating the culture of gun ownership in that's a question for the politicians to debate going forward. now, here's a video of george zimmerman. it's fueling new questions about his claim of defense-defense in this stand your ground law. zimmerman said his client was attacked and his nose was broken. today matt lauer spoke with him exclusively and asks whether the video contradicts or backs up his claim? >> i think it's a grainy video. you'll see one of the officers looking at the back of his head. the video is very grainy and i'm not sure -- as far as if the injuries were seen and then later cleaned up. >> what is the martin family saying about this video and

obviously the lawyer said he was cleaned up do we have any evidence that a paramedic was called and that the paramedics treated him? >> reporter: yeah, he was treated in the back of a police car. that's in the police report that has been released officially. he did not go to the hospital, pay parentally. some people say if you had your head bashed in and injury would have required that, there was some mention that his injuries required stitch. that's what one of the defenders of zimmerman has said in an interview. but the family and many others who have looked at this tape don't see any obvious injury they say it's a crucial piece of evidence because it contradicts a life and death struggle in which trayvon martin was on top of zim glim. and that his supporters have

said. the other thing about it, of course, is it's another opportunity for the public to see some aspect of what happened and to make up their own mind as the 911 tapes gave the public some opportunity to hear things and that tweaked the emotion. i'm sure these tapes will do the same thing. >> ron, there seems to be a lot of selective leaking going on inside this sanford police department. clearly it's like one day somebody trying to defend something they did will be beneficial to the martin family nor day and it seems to be -- it puts us all here in reporting in a precarious situation. >> reporter: well, there's always leaks and there's always sources and always people trying to tell their story to us in the way they want it to be told. the martin family has maintained

that there has been a pattern of leak from the police department of information that has been beneficial to george zimmerman. again, this goes on and on. there's no evidence, the police say they are investigating whether there have been any leaks. they have not found any as of yet. and they say that anyone who does leak any will be punishable. you're right. people are trying to argue their case in the court of public opinion but there are people alleging all kinds of things. of course, we're trying to sort through it to figure out what happen there. >> we should also remind the viewer, be careful where that information came from. ron allen, thank you very much. a political panel join me here. first, the soup of the day is white chicken chili. you're watching only msnbc.

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a prisoner of war, i'd like to speak for all of the prisoners of war and simply say we're mighty happy to be home. >> daily flashback. it was this day in 1973 that the united states ended its active involvement in vietnam. hanoi freed the remaining american pows they claim they were still holding in north vietnam. as newt gingrich begins to downsize his staff, his biggest legacy will be the day he called for kids to be janitors at a school. a georgetown alum recounts his days as a student yjanitor.

>> i was at a private high school and to me it was embarrassing. i'm always working super hard. did i not feel empowered by serving my classmates. >> i would also ask you the question, did you find it useful to get the money? is there a reason why you were doing it? >> joining me now, and he said there was a reason why he was doing it. but joining me is michael crowley. former journalist jill zuckman and fred yang. welcome, all. michael crowley, let me start with you. newt gingrich having that thrown back in his face. by the way, it was supposed to be a speech on social security. it took him 30 minutes to get to that topic. >> sounds like newt.

>> yeah. >> well, newt was doing a decent job i think of slowly rehabilitating his reputation. he left congress under pretty dark circumstances. i think he had a nice little career going for him talking on fox news, an activist republican following going. he is now possibly the most -- if you look at the actually polling on it, the longer he stays in the more we're going to see episodes like this. he's not really turning that around by staying in the race. >> it's going to be a punch line. it's like a punch line for everybody. >> i feel like he's just fading away. in a way he's taking himself out but not officially taking himself out. i mean, he's not really campaigning. it's over. he knows it's over but he just doesn't want to say it. >> i want to get to the supreme court and political preparation going on about what happens if

the whole thing gets overturned and i'm going to come back, fred. yesterday the white house came up with new mandate language. i was sort of mocking it this morning and reminded by the friends over at the health insurance plans, they said, hey, we had this phraseology back in 2009. >> i think better late than never. this is the start of health care, which ever way the court decides as part of the 2012 dialogue. >> the day it happens -- there is this debate and it's sort of an interesting, raging debate is a wrong way to describe it but it's a heated debate. how much will an overturn impact the president? >> i think medium level in the short term. i think in the long term -- i don't think it will change the

fundamental structure of this election. >> that's what they are counting on. they say, if we were running against somebody else, it might be a tougher day but we're running against mitt romney. >> sure. but the republican party in general doesn't have a clear pog on health care. they want to cut costs over the long term but that's quite perilous because you're talking about digging into health care. the gop has been very good in saying what they are against. they don't have a clear pog sitn on what they want to replace it with. you could have an energized left and a right that is trying to figure out, what are we going to say? because nobody likes the status quo. >> the other thing that concerns me, sort of as an american citizen and somebody that actually likes this town would like to see it work is a polarized 5-4 decision would now mean the third branch of government is now viewed as politically polarized. >> well, the supreme court has

been split like that for a while. >> it has. they sort of backed away but this would be entering into the campaign. >> well, it wouldn't entering i campaign. >> it wouldn't provide clarity or leadership on this issue. if they do throw it out, it would open up questions about medicaid and medicare and throw everything into chaos. i think you will galvanize people in a way they haven't been in a long time because they were turned off by the sausage making. >> an unintended consequence you think might come about? >> not only with the republicans have a coherent position on health care, it will be harder to run against obama care if it is struck down. they could run on the specter, this is what they will do to you. >> i have had republicans nervous, that they will miss having it. >> they will have to talk about bush tax cuts. >> michael, stick around. who was the most recent supreme

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you just missed us geeking out. michael crowley, jill zuckman and fred yang. marco rubio, the predictable thing, dog bites, michael crowley. it is now republicans figuring out how to best utilize their endorsement. guess what rubio gets today. i don't want the v.p.

>> rubio has been pretty firm in saying, he doesn't want it. it is not going to be him. i am trying to figure out how much of a game is being played. does everyone in washington say, he kind of makes sense. it would be a lot of fun. let's keep asking him. he is denying it firmly enough if i'm starting to wonder if there is a disconnect here. >> i believe he knows this isn't the best path for him. i could make an argument that being a vice president or an unsuccessful vice president nominee is not good for your political career but he has a book coming out in june. >> he has his book out and he has a book from "the washington post." >> they want to talk about his. when you have got not one but two books coming out about you at the same time, you are in the hunt. >> i'm looking back. it has not been -- i guess biden helped a little bit but it doesn't help you as much as you think. >> you can get a reality show on the discovery channel like the last republican. he has a lot of political

capital he might be wasting on somebody else. shameless plugs. we will start with you. >> work-related, imdoing a project with republican pollster, chris matthews in indiana, the first installment of the depaul university indiana battleground powell, numbers on the presidential and the u.s. senate. >> that's cute you think it is a battleground state. >> i was up late last night reading an excerpt from robert kara's new book in "the new yorker," all about lbj and the day kennedy was shot. it was fascinating. >> i was going to say i was up late reading it is will. the other thing next to it is kate boos fascinating book about a slum in mumbai. wonderful reporting and handwriting about a world we never get to see. >> we started to talk about robert moses. that's it for this edition of "the daily rundown" coming up, chris jansing. bye-bye.

a look at your business travel forecast. the west coast by far the worst weather of the country from washington state to oregon and northern california. a lot of heavy rain. a few showers in boston today. pretty nice throughout much of the middle portion of the country. late this afternoon, strong thunderstorms near kansas city and omaha. have a great day! i've been pushing food around to make it look like i ate it since before i could walk. [ sigh ]

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